Coy and Vance

[General Grant]

Hey y'all...
Just curious, what are is your opinion on Coy and Vance? Please, do not get all upset... I am just curious. One of my relatives ( a fellow Dukes fan) gets all upset when one even mentiones the name Coy or Vance.
What is your opinion?
General Grant

[LoriDavenport]

my opinion is that they aint bad, they aint bo and Luke but hey they tried. they'd been better if they were told to act like thier own character and try no tto copy bo and Luke. but they're cool.

[bwgath]

I didn't mind them. No they aren't/weren't Bo and Luke but I remember watching Coy and Vance as a kid and thinking "I wish Bo and Luke were back but at least I can still watch the Dukes". My point is that it was better than not watching Dukes at all.

[morgan]

I don't like them, but the episodes are not so bad

[General Grant]

Hey y'all!
I think your replies were so cool! I was expecting explosions!!!! I feel the same, yes, they aren't Bo and Luke, but they picked up their stuff and went to help Bo and Luke make their dream come true. I think the show would have had a lot better success with Coy and Vance if they were themselves, rather that look-alikes and immitaters.
Anyway, y'all. I thought that was so cool that y'all accepted them too!
General Grant

[Julieduke]

Hey y'all!
I think your replies were so cool! I was expecting explosions!!!! I feel the same, yes, they aren't Bo and Luke, but they picked up their stuff and went to help Bo and Luke make their dream come true. I think the show would have had a lot better success with Coy and Vance if they were themselves, rather that look-alikes and immitaters.
Anyway, y'all. I thought that was so cool that y'all accepted them too!
General Grant
I weren't bad they was better than the Movie actors were, and Vance was the cute one and by the way at McDonald's I work we got a Vance he's somewhere between 14-16 years old but no Coy yet.

[Laura Duke]

This is how I feel about Coy and Vance-cheap imitations! They should have never been look-alikes like Bo and Luke. They should have came in and been two totally different characters. I personally can't stand watching the season with them on it. It's like they kidnapped my real cousins (Bo and Luke) and expect me to believe Coy and Vance are now part of the family. :cry: Does anyone else agree with me?
Laura Duke

[Julieduke]

This is how I feel about Coy and Vance-cheap imitations! They should have never been look-alikes like Bo and Luke. They should have came in and been two totally different characters. I personally can't stand watching the season with them on it. It's like they kidnapped my real cousins (Bo and Luke) and expect me to believe Coy and Vance are now part of the family. :cry: Does anyone else agree with me?
Laura Duke
Well, I have all seven seasons and I Coy and Vance weren't as good as Bo and Luke but they was better than the two that played Bo and Luke in the first movie.

[Laura Duke]

Well, not only were the actors bad on the first movie, the script was horrible! No one is as good as the original cast! :-P
Laura Duke

[Garrett Duke]

Well said - nothing could ever replace the original cast. Tom and John will always be the true Bo and Luke just as Denver Pyle will always be the real Uncle Jesse and so on. I personally found the first DOH movie offensive towards the show - it seemed to break down all that it represented.

As for Coy and Vance...I really don't care that much for them, and it isn't the actors fault that I feel that way, but how they were represented by WB. I think they would have been more well liked if they were allowed to be their own character instead of Bo and Luke. They were given different names, but that was it. The actors walked in on a horrible situation there and you got to feel bad for them. I own that season DVD with them on it, but I don't think I have ever sat down and watched them as of yet. Though I do have to admit, they had some pretty original and neat episodes for Coy and Vance. Kinda like they were trying to make amends for the absense of Tom and John.

Well there's my two cents worth on the subject. ;) No one can beat the originals!

Keep it between the ditches

Garrett Duke

[General Grant]

I hope y'all can listen to a whole different concept on "the Great Dukes Debate" I think that we should all give Coy and Vance (Byron Cherry and Christopher Mayes) the same respect we give to Bo and Luke ( John and Tom) Afterall, they are kin, and Dukes don't hate Dukes! Also, Coy and Vance picked up their entire lives and went to help the Bo, Luke, Daisy, and Uncle Jesse, so that Bo and Luke could live out their dream. I agree that they were not as good as the originals and that the movie was horrible. But, that is just my opinion.
Bye y'all!
General Grant

[RogerDuke]

Great point General Grant ("after all, they are kin").
I like the way you think. I'm sure no one out there likes Coy and Vance MORE than they like Bo and Luke but I agree, we shouldn't dislike them either. They did the right thing by coming to help Jesse and Daisy on the farm and we should respect them for that. At least the writers sent someone to help on the farm. That's more than I can say for the writers in the reunion movie. The way they began that movie ruined the whole thing for me. Bo, Luke and Daisy would have never left Uncle Jesse by himself like that. I suspect that the writers were just in it for the paycheck and not real fan(s) of the show.

[General Grant]

Thank you RogerDuke! I am glad that some one agrees with me! I was just hoping that it wouldn't start a war or anything. I never saw the first Reunion movie. I saw the second reunion and the new Dukes of Hazzard movie. I must say I didn't care much for the second reunion movie, I thought there wasn't much plot, Uncle Jesse wasn't there, I don't recall Boss being there either, and I thought that was horrible what they did to poor Flash! I was appauled by the new movie. That certainly was not the veiw I come away with when I am watching the Dukes episodes. There must be something about the Dukes of Hazzard that us country people (and those who are country at heart) must understand that city folk(and Hollywood producers) can't seem to grasp (not to offend anyone!)
Y'all seem so country on here!
Catch y'all later!
General Grant

[Laura Duke]

Hey again!
I know what ya'll are saying-that we should respect Coy & Vance, but I just don't feel that way. Yes, they were helping Uncle Jesse and Daisy on the farm, but that's it. Even if you watch Catherine Bach around Byron and Christopher, you can just tell that her heart isn't in acting with those two.
Besides, I thought that they weren't really that great of actors, I just didn't feel the warmth of John and Tom. So, I probably won't persuade you on this one. But, I just can't stand watching Coy and Vance!
So, again, there's my two cents on this one. Does anyone feel the same way as I do?
Laura Duke

[Julieduke]

I liked the Coy and Vance episodes myselfs.

[General Grant]

Yes, there are some very creative episodes during the 5th season with Coy and Vance. I know some of them would be better played by Bo and Luke, but Byron and Christopher did a great job acting. I actually think that the 5th season has the most creative episodes in a single season, compared to the other six.
Anyway, Bye y'all!
General Grant

[Laura Duke]

I personally think that Coy and Vance in the 5th season ruins the show for me! Even though the script is great, I just can't stand watching it because those two are in it. But, for those of you who love Coy and Vance-you have some great shows to watch!
Laura Duke8-)

[North_of_Border1]

I thought they were alright. The acting wasn't so good sometimes, John and Tom were better but I enjoyed the episodes with Coy and Vance. The first few shows were weird because I was so used to Bo and Luke but after that it was okay by me.

I did not like the way they were shipped out when Bo and Luke came back; by the first commercial break with barely a line of dialogue. It would have been fun to see all 4 of them have one adventure together.

Ben Jones says it best: Nice guys put in a difficult situation.

[RogerDuke]

I remember when the show was out originally and I lived for Friday night, it didn't really bother me that much when Coy and Vance were on. Sure, I liked Bo and Luke a lot more and I didn't think Coy and Vance were as good of actors but the show meant so much to me (and still does) that I ignored the bad and focused on the good. Coy and Vance were family and if it weren't for them the show would have ended after season 4, which means we would have missed out on almost half of the fun. So, not only did they help Jesse and Daisy through hard times, they helped to keep Dukes around long enough that we had two more seasons after they left. Losing Bo and Luke wasn't the hard part. Losing the series after 7 amazing years was. Thank goodness for the DVDs and the Hazzardnet....and thank goodness for all of you good Hazzard County folks out there who use it. We're all Dukes (and Davenports, Hoggs, Coltranes and Strates) at heart. I'm grateful to anyone who had anything to do with those 7 years, including Christopher Mayer and Byron Cherry. They aren't perfect but they're still Dukes. I'm gone.

[Laura Duke]

Okay, okay! RogerDuke, you're good! I'm starting to soften up on Coy and Vance. That is true-they did keep the show alive while Bo and Luke were gone for almost a whole season. Boy, you all make such good points about Coy and Vance that it's hard for me to even to think of anymore reasons why I just can't stand watching them.
Laura Duke:)

[RogerDuke]

Thanks Laura, it's always nice to get a compliment. I think everybody else can relate to one statement you made that sums up the entire Coy and Vance experience and it's not necessarily the fault of anybody....it's just a truthful, realistic evaluation of the average Dukes fan's feelings. Your statement was "I just didn't feel the warmth of John and Tom."
That's common ground that we all share.

[LoriDavenport]

I agree with ya Laura Duke on the statement that RogerDuke quoted, I watched the first episode of it and I didn't like it, but I started watching it more and more and softened up on Coy and Vance but I still wanted Bo and Luke though..

[General Grant]

Wow! It seems like a lot happened while I wasn't looking! Laura Duke... I am surprised that you are softening up, you seemed so set in your ways!! Which isn't a bad thing! Reading through these, you sure do have a way with words RogerDuke! When I first posted this thread and asked the question about Coy and Vance, I was not expecting such a tremendous amount of support from the good people of Hazzard Net, nor was I expecting kindness toward Byron and Christopher. After reading several aricles and books on the subject, I figured I was the only Dukes fan who actually felt bad for Byron and Christopher for having to be in that situation and for all of the negative comments thrown around about them. It seemed that not only the writers of the articles and books hated them, but also Dukes fans. But I was truly amazed and overjoyed when I posted the thread and recieved only positive comments, even when it is known that some of the fans of the Dukes don't like Coy and Vance, which I can understand, I have not heard a bad word said about them. It makes me proud to be a Dukes fan, and a member of this site, where even people you don't exactly care for are your friends. If only the rest of the world could apply that, we'd be a whole lot better off!
I would like every one to know that I truly am amazed by y'all being so kind and hospitable.

General Grant

[RogerDuke]

That's a great way of putting things General Grant. Looking at posts like these really makes me realize what a great second family we have here on the Hazzardnet. I'd always fought computers and technology (I'll never own a cell phone) but when someone explained to me, earlier this year, that you could probably find people who also loved The Dukes of Hazzard on this here contraption, I decided to give it a try. Boy, am I sure glad I did. I had a very full happy life before I found Hazzardnet but now, I really feel like my life is even more complete. I feel sorry for people who don't understand why folks like us are so in love with Hazzard County. For me, the Dukes is somewhere between a hobby and a religion. In other words, I model my life around the lifestyle of Hazzard County residents (minus the car jumps) but I don't put them above God. It's awesome to know that there's folks out there who understand. I got a big 'ole smile on my face right now.

[Brian Coltrane]

Roger, you gave a fine speechify there. Coy and Vance were always irritating to me, but I agree we all owe something to the fact that they kept the show going. Coy, in particular, was likeable with his aw-shucks innocence. Vance was a smug cuss and came across like he was on valium half the time. Yet both of them kept the roads to Hazzard County open so that Bo and Luke could eventually find their way home.

[Laura Duke]

Well said everyone!
You know, this is such a great group of people on here. I, for one, am very lucky I found HazzardNet. There's just such a warmth here. Plus, I really like the fact that even though I totally disagreed with all of you, there was no judging, just understanding.
I have a lot of respect for each and everyone of you, and proud to call ya'll cousins (hey, everyone's family on the Dukes of Hazzard).
As for Coy and Vance, I'll have to give it another try, who knows? I might just someday enjoy watching them(well.....I don't think I'll like them that much!)
It really makes you wonder why everyone isn't a Dukes of Hazzard fan! I agree with General Grant "the world would be a better place" Really makes you stop and think about it, doesn't it?

Laura Duke

[General Grant]

Sorry y'all, but another long one!

Boy, if only everyone could be like this group of people here. I love what you said, Laura Duke, "Even though I totally disagreed with all of you there was no judging, just understanding." I wish life were that way. It really makes you stop and think that if we all pull together like family should, then, despite the differences, we can come to an understanding with one another, and a deeper respect for those around us. I simply cannot say enough how proud I am that all of you patiently listened to one another and responded with the greatest respect for everyone's opinions. I truly am thankful that this site was shown to me. I really like what you said, Rogerduke, about the Dukes fans being a second family and that you model your lifestyle around the Hazzard County residents but don't put them above God. I feel pretty much the same way (although I just love those car jumps, Khee!) I know exactly where you are coming from when you say that, and I also got a big ole' Bo grin on my face! It is funny how I have gotten this far with the Dukes. It started as a kind of joke. For my sister's birthday, I bought the first Dukes season because while on vacation I saw one of the episodes and thought it was the dumbest thing(bear with me, I changed my opinion!) So, after watching the first episode I was shocked when Bo went up to Daisy and put his arms around her and said, "you know, if we weren't cousins I'd marry you." To which Daisy replied, "That never stopped anyone in this family before." And Bo grins and and says "You got a point there" followed by his famous HA HA laugh! Shock and Horror filled me as I looked over at my sister(now remember, I got this as a gift for her) and saw her face the phrase OH MY! was written all over her face! I simply said we'll exchange this tomorrow and you can just take the money! But, trying to be polite, she said no, she would just watch a few more episodes. And, before you know it, season two came out and we rushed to the store to buy it. And, along came season 7 (my sister just about cried on the last episode) But, I must say, I truly am lucky to have seen that show. It really has shown me HOW to live. Being in the country, I always veiwed life as boring and somewhat dull, but now there is no where else I'd rather be than home, in the country, and able to have all of the excitement and adventures that city folk miss out on. I mean, how many city people can go out and have thier horse pull them on a sled, or ride a hay wagon down the street, or drive around in the back 40(even if we used to do that with teh Lumina, now we have a JEEP!) or have that same intense thrill of staking hay over you head in an over cramped, overheated hundred year old barn. Not many! Anyway, thank you all for helping me to truly see that I really am blessed to live in the country and to truly understand the values that are so clearly presented in the Dukes of Hazzard. I cannot express my gratitude enough to all of you, or how proud I am to be a Dukes fan and to live and learn from the best!

I'll catch y'all later.

Having shared my opinion on a very delicate subject for Dukes fans (Coy and Vance) and seeing the remarkable amount of enthusiasm with which you replied, and the generosity, patience, and kindness y'all shared, I cannot help but thinking that I must be one of the luckiest people! You have proven right here what it is all about. You have shown what the Dukes of Hazzard have been trying to tell us all along, Dukes don't fight Dukes! All we have is family!

General Grant

[RogerDuke]

That's a great post General Grant. Here's another reason to like Coy and Vance. (I admit we have to struggle to find them).....If it weren't for them, we wouldn't have this thread. This thread sure is providing some of the best tributes to the show I've ever read!!!!!! Despite our occasional (very minor) disagreements, I sure do love all my cousins on the Hazzardnet. I'm gone.

[General Grant]

Thank you Rogerduke. You are right about us all bein' cousins. I must say it sure feels like you know everyone on here! Coy and Vance sure did a lot and didn't get much credit for any of it.

General Grant

What do ya know... I actually kept it short this time! Khee!

[RogerDuke]

Let me throw up one more tribute while we're on the subject. Thanks to all the folks who began the Hazzardnet and maintain it. You people are awesome and so many of us appreciate it. Let's all head down to the Boar's Nest so I can by y'all a buttermilk. Possum on a gumbush. I'm gone.

[Laura Duke]

Wow! I must say that I always enjoy reading your posts General Grant and RogerDuke! You both have such a way of putting things so great, that I wish that I could do!
Yes, we owe the moderators a HUGE thank you. They have put in countless hours of work on this site so that Duke fans could have a place to meet other Duke families around the world. Without these moderators, I would have never met such great people. Thanks, guys!
Again, I can't tell you how much I enjoy this site, and all the new family members I didn't know I had. Thanks everyone!
Laura Duke

Oh, and General Grant, great story on how the Dukes came into your life-I really liked it!

[General Grant]

Hey y'all!
Great point Rogerduke and Laura Duke, we really do owe a lot to the moderators of this site (hopefully they read this) any way, I know I am real thankful! Rogerduke, I'll take you up on that offer, but I'll take mine in a frosted mug! (I just did the Bo laugh!)

Catch y'all later!
General Grant

[RogerDuke]

I really enjoy all your posts Laura and General. Whenever someone new comes into town, it's always nice....but quite often they don't stay long. I have a feeling you two are going to be around for awhile. It's always cool to log on and see a lot of new posts up by a wide variety of folks. Before you know it, you both will be old timers at this thing. Good folks (like you two) settling here in Hazzard County will make this great place even better. By the way, you can just call me Roger.

[Laura Duke]

Well, thank you very much Roger! I must admit, I always love reading your posts, they are always so great! You are definately like the Uncle Jesse of the group, you keep everyone in line, but you always do it with class! :wink:
I plan on sticking around until everyone gets sick of me! Hopefully that will be a while. :lol:
Maybe we'll bump into each other at the Boar's Nest sometime! :) Until then, keep it 'tween the ditches, ya'll!
Laura Duke

[RogerDuke]

A humble thank you. Uncle Jesse is my hero.

[Laura Duke]

I can tell Uncle Jesse is your hero, and you can't find a better person to be your hero!

[General Grant]

Hey y'all!
I can't believe that people wouldn't stick around! I can't imagine why. It is really fun here and I enjoy reading y'alls posts. Esspecially you, Laura and Roger. I agree with you, Laura that Roger is like the Uncle Jesse of the group. You really do keep us all in line. Uncle Jesse is a really great person! So, I really like him too! I hope to see y'all at the Boars Nest too. But I'll take an apple juice... In a frosted mug! Khee!
I'll Catch y'all later! Khee! Khee! I love it! I'm Gone!

General Grant


Hey, an afterthought!! I've got a question for you Laura Duke and Roger...
Would you like to set up a chat time sometime?

[RogerDuke]

That sounds like fun but I've never done it before so I'll need some instructions. I'm well known on the Hazzardnet for not having computer skills. If something is more complicated than feeding the chickens, I need help. Actually feeding the chickens ain't so bad, it's milking the chickens that gits complicated....and even that's easier for an old redneck than trying to figure this contraption out.

[Brian Coltrane]

Thank ya'll for your kind words about HazzardNet and the staff here! We do appreciate it. We also appreciate YOU for making HazzardNet the top-ranked Dukes site on the web. It's your posts, your photos, and your participation that make the difference. So give yerselves a round of applause, and sal-ute!


Brian

[General Grant]

Hey y'all!
Thank you BrianColtrane! Without you, or the other moderators, we couldn't be here! Thanks!

Well, Roger, I am no expert, but I'll give this a shot.
Right under the HazzardNet pictures at the top of the screen, there is an orange bar that says User CP, FAQ, Members List, etc...
Then, find the word chat, and click on it. (At least that is how I think it is done! I've never done it either!) Is this making any sense?

Don't worry, I am the same way with computers. I have to think pretty hard to get something done on this thing! I hear ya! I also find milking to be pretty easy, but gettin' them cows to lay an egg is a whole other story! Khee!

Talk to you soon, y'all!
General Grant

[Laura Duke]

Hi Everyone!
First of all General Grant, I would love to set up a chat time! When did you have it in mind?
Roger, I don't blame you for not knowing how to get in a chat room, this is the first time I've done this, too! Even though General Grant did a great job explaining it, sometimes it's a little easier to understand if two people explain it, that way one person can explain what another person missed! :lol:
If you are on the main forum page, you will see a list of things. One of them says "Chat". Click on that. Once you click on it, that's pretty much it. You then just have to click on "Chat in forum web page" Then it brings you right to the chat room. Don't worry, I know that you can do it! :-P
Thanks Brian Coltrane, but you are really the ones that put a LOT more work into it than I realize. It's great to have such caring people that go to a lot of time and trouble to do this for the rest of us! Thanks a million! :)
Boy, I always love reading these posts, they are just so funny!
Well, I hope that ALL of you have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
Laura Duke:lol:

[Laura Duke]

Sorry, Roger, but I just wanted to make this easier yet! If you scroll to the top of this screen, right below the HazzardNet picture. Under the "Reply to Thread" There's a bunch of commands, look for the "Chat". It's the 5th command, with the small little upside down triangle. Then just follow the rest of our previous messages. Hopefully that makes sense. But, please don't do that until we set up a time to do this, otherwise you'll be talking to yourself!:) If you have a day and time that you would like to do this, let me know!
Thanks, and I hope that it helped. I still know that you can figure this out! :-P
Laura Duke

[RogerDuke]

I think I can handle it. If I get in trouble, my wife will probably be able to help. Thanks for the advice. Somebody suggest a time.
Once again, with Thanksgiving coming up, Brian Coltrane is one of the things I have to be thankful for. (no LOL, I'm being serious here)

[General Grant]

Hey y'all!

I am not sure what day y'all have in mind. Wednesday's won't work for me, though. As for time, it don't matter, as long as it is not too late at night. Otherwise I'll get up late and the animals will let me know how mad they are 'cause I made 'em wait for their breakfast!
Hey, that is a great thought Roger about what you're thankful for.
Well, it's Thanksgiving, and I am thankful for y'all on the Hazzardnet, as well as my family to keep me in line, friends to help me through the hard times and to share the good times with, neighbors to help and to teach me the value of helping one another, and my animals to remind me how lucky I am- and to teach me the value of hard work!

Catch y'all later!
General Grant