Poll for Dukes of Hazzard: The Beginning

[Meadowmufn]

Alright folks, here's your chance to vote on how you'd rate Dukes of Hazzard: The Beginning. You can choose more than one option, if you'd like.

[Divia]

I did like it, but I agree there was not enough car chases. :(

[Brian Coltrane]

At least they smashed up a few cop cars, which scores points with me.

But yeah, there were a lot of pointless innuendo scenes ( like the ones with Lulu) and not nearly enough car chases.

If they took the cast from this latest effort, and combined them with the stunts from the 2005 movie, they'd have something. Give or take a navel shot.

Brian

[lost_sheep3]

I did like the TV Movie - it wasn't as good as the original - nothing ever can be. But it was watchable - despite the innuendo's, and it at least got the characters closer to the originals.

WB gets credit for keeping Duke's alive - even if it's not the Dukes we knew.

[MinDuke]

Sense of family was better, characters were better... Add a few more chases and more than one jump and it'd be all right. But I do have one big suggestion, keep Lulu Hogg away from poultry of any kind...LOL.

[Meadowmufn]

But I do have one big suggestion, keep Lulu Hogg away from poultry of any kind...LOL.

You gotta admit, Min. Lulu was poultry in motion.

*ducks!*

[MinDuke]

LOL...yeah and if Luke hadnt gotten his hand out, it might literally have been pure poultry in motion or worse... Then again Lulu didnt get arrested for manhandling a turkey! Imagine Rosco having to arrest her? Gives a whole new meaning to cuff ya and stuff ya... :)

[TRPColtrane95]

lol yeah, I like it but I like original better and need to see more action for General Lee chase..like jump etc..and sheriff crash etc while chase General Lee.. but Lulu little funny over Luke.. :)

[Dave]

I was personally on the fence, but it would have been nice to see more General scenes, especially jumps..

[deesgirl]

did any one notice when they pulled the car from the water it all ready had the flag on the top but when they first pulled from the garage it didn't

[traintownofcowee]

I was personally on the fence, but it would have been nice to see more General scenes, especially jumps..

I Second That EXTREMELY!!!!!

[Mosey Duke]

I Second That EXTREMELY!!!!!

I agree with both of you, needed more General scenes. on a side note cowee, I'm gonna sing the Doom Song now..........Doom doom doom...

[duke gril]

i t was ok but they could have done more jumps. if the genreal car was human i would marry him!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Julieduke]

I agree with both of you, needed more General scenes. on a side note cowee, I'm gonna sing the Doom Song now..........Doom doom doom...
Hey Mosy Duke, can I go for a ride in your General. I like and my dad and my brothers like as well. In fact my younger brother liked it better than the 2005 versions.

[chico]

I think denver pyle would be turning in his grave.uncle jesse would never tell stupid jokes that willie nelson told. neither of the two movies have the family values the original show had or fighting the system. nun of the cast resemble the original cast and to much moonshine in the second movie its understandable its the begining but jesse took and oath with the us of a goverment not to make moonshine if anybody remembers. I have all seven seasons and aquirring the two reunion movies and i have both new movies watch all seven seasons over and over and i just don't think the new movies stand up to the series the only good things about the movies are the general lees oh and the dukes never got the general out of a river. they got it at the scrap yard and already had the engine in the barn.

[The_Dukes_Generl_Lee01]

I thought it was pretty descent though it could've definitely been a little better and they should of kept Lulu fat though and more Racing in it too! But I still liked it though.

[Beauregard Special]

What did they get wrong? Let's not get me started, fellow Hazzardites.

1) Plot innaccuracies- Luke and Bo were RAISED by Uncle Jesse from a young age after their parents died, not thrown into his care as teenagers.
2) I think the skinny Lulu was for spite by WB, I really do.
3) WAAAAAY too much innuendo (and NuLulu, yikes)
4) The General's paintjob. I can get the whole "named after generals" thing, but the 01 wasn't just Bo's favorite number, it stood for something: start out with nothing and you'll always end up number one. About the only thing I can understand would be making up an excuse for the orange paint job.
Originally said by Ben Jones as Cooter:
Sorry, boys. All I have's orange.
But they didn't, not that I expected it.
5) The return of one-liner spittin' Uncle Jesse. Willie, you're a funny guy, I love your songs, I think you and the others in the Highwaymen were great, but you're no Denver Pyle. He was a patriarch, you're, well, just something else, nothing bad (in my opinion), just not Uncle Jesse.

I personally think they should have tried taking the origin in "Happy Birthday, General Lee!" and building on that, but who ever knew WB to exercise common sense? About the only improvement to this movie are the actors, but the really need to consider a short and fat Boss for the next movie, not Tall and Skinny, he wasn't originally played by Wilt Chamberlin.

[RogerDuke]

The real Uncle Jesse wouldn't have made it through the first ten minutes of this movie without turning it off, throwing it in the garbage, and slipping in a DVD of his real kinfolk. That's because he cares about the integrity and reputation of his community and family. That's what Hazzard County is all about. I can't figure out what this new movie is all about but I know it's not about The Dukes of Hazzard.

[Julieduke]

did any one notice when they pulled the car from the water it all ready had the flag on the top but when they first pulled from the garage it didn't
Ya, I did notice where does Rebel flag's go from the tops of cars. I found out that Dixie was written by a Yankee and the fight song the Yankees was written by a southern.

[Silverado]

The ONLY things I liked about this thing were the General Lee; the naked girls and Dukes Boys Swingin' by Cowboy Troy.

This time, they turned Bo and Luke into two of the biggest morons I've ever seen in my life! I'd like to see Wopat and Schneider's Dukes beat the stew out Randy Wayne and Jonathon Bennett's Dukes...then, have the Knoxville/Scott Dukes chain them to the bumper of the General Lee and jump/ski/drift them...

I will admit, my jaw dropped when I saw Sherilyn Fenn as Lulu. And I instantly thought of her in Meridian: Kiss of the Beast

[Gibbers]

Umm....I know that I'm gonna get blasted for this....but a lot of people need to get a grip. Plot inaccuracies? There were none. End of story. Hate to say it, but "The Beginning" is not the original show. It's a remake. It's what some might call a retcon, meaning they completely disregard anything that was set before, and tell the story their own way. It happens all the time in comic book series, like Superman, or Spiderman, when they just decide to retell the original events. For example, the original Superman (back in Action Comics) couldn't fly, he could only jump far distances, and he wasn't entirely invincible either. But how about in Superman Returns last year? I'm pretty sure he took a bullet to the eye and took Lois for a cruise in the air.

Same way with "The Beginning." If this is truly the pilot episode for a new series, like I've heard, then those people need to just understand that it's not going to be exactly like the old show. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but as far as what was wrong with the movie, we can't just say "oh, Denver Pyle's Uncle Jesse would never do those things" or "The boys don't look anything like Tom or John." and have it really mean anything, because let's face it - although it's true, IT'S NOT THE SAME SHOW. Now obviously there's going to be problems anytime a retcon happens, because people will be attached to the old version and not willing to accept some liberties that are taken with the new one. That's okay. Sometimes it takes a while to come to grips with the reality, and some may never like the new product at all. Sometimes it's for the better and sometimes it's for the worse.

But don't complain that it's not like the original show, because that's not what the purpose of the movies were. They were in tribute (however skewed that tribute may be) to the original, not trying to emulate every detail of the original. We can just be thankful that the writer of "The Beginning" thought it was appropriate to give more nods to the original than Broken Lizard did.

I'm going to say what I've heard a lot of other people say too, but now I want to clarify it differently: The original cast are done making reunion movies. They won't be making anything Dukes-related, besides appearing at Dukefest, or perhaps doing a project that has some nods to the Dukes - i.e. Collier and Co. or the Smallville episode, or another Dukes video game. Why? The reason is simple. It would never be the same. Waylon, Sorrell, and Denver are gone. They were the backbone of the entire series. Yes, everyone else held their own, but there's a hole in the Duke family, and we'll never get them back. And we'll never get the original Dukes back either.

Which is why they retconned the series and made "The Beginning." I know that it's easy to say that WB is just milking the fans of DOH for their money, and it's true, but I think there's another level to the story that's positive. Someone thought that the Dukes of Hazzard was a good enough story that kids today should be able to enjoy and relate to it. Maybe once they've seen the new one, then they'll go back and become fans of the original. Maybe not, and they never will be able to relate to a show from the 70's and 80's is for the mere reason that it IS from that long ago.

Kids today aren't as stupid as a lot of people think. Maybe I'm wrong but I was born in 88, and I consider myself one of the last of the class generation - before the techno generation. We enjoy life's little things, and we can live without technology to an extent. And I think "The Beginning" reaches out to that audience - my peers - in that it is about knowing that somewhere in America, two boys can still fight the system the way two good ol boys could some 25 years or so ago. Because it doesn't happen today. There is too much fine print. Too many unnecessary little things that used to happen all the time, that if it happened today there'd be a lawsuit or something, and we could never do it today. That's really what the Dukes of Hazzard is about, anyway, right? Celebrating the little things, and being able to do them with your family?

I'm done.

Gibbers

[RogerDuke]

Okay so let me be the first blaster. Before I do, I want to say I am impressed with all the thought you have put into this. I also want to say that I am glad that the younger generation wants to see the Dukes in the spotlight with new stuff. I can only speak for myself but I think that (more so than anger) I feel sadness that so much immorality has been added to the new Dukes and the younger generation has accepted it. It makes me wonder how much more immoral the next (2027?) generation will be. "Immorality" is a difficult thing to define. Some people didn't like the original show because Daisy dressed too skimpy or there was drinking in it etc. That's a good point of which I have no defense but I guess us original viewers don't really want to see what we love corrupted and we just wish people who like that sort of humor would simply go to movies like American Pie and not change our beloved Hazzard County. If the new Dukes ever become a modern series and you fall in love with it and they change it dramatically in 25 years you'll probably understand how us old timers feel. Possum on a gumbush. I'm gone.

[Julieduke]

Okay so let me be the first blaster. Before I do, I want to say I am impressed with all the thought you have put into this. I also want to say that I am glad that the younger generation wants to see the Dukes in the spotlight with new stuff. I can only speak for myself but I think that (more so than anger) I feel sadness that so much immorality has been added to the new Dukes and the younger generation has accepted it. It makes me wonder how much more immoral the next (2027?) generation will be. "Immorality" is a difficult thing to define. Some people didn't like the original show because Daisy dressed too skimpy or there was drinking in it etc. That's a good point of which I have no defense but I guess us original viewers don't really want to see what we love corrupted and we just wish people who like that sort of humor would simply go to movies like American Pie and not change our beloved Hazzard County. If the new Dukes ever become a modern series and you fall in love with it and they change it dramatically in 25 years you'll probably understand how us old timers feel. Possum on a gumbush. I'm gone.
Well, just for a referance they are making a Knight Rider movie coming out in 2008 and David Hasselhoff said it won't be like the Dukes movie. And There's the Baywatch movie coming out as well, with Jessica Simpson playing C.J. Parker and she asked Pamela Anderson a really dumb question. And there making a Dallas movie so I guess hollywood is going to ruin some more really good classic televison then.

[RogerDuke]

I couldn't resist this Waylon quote from the conclusion of "By-Line Daisy Duke" in season 3. It sums up how many people feel about not altering the original Dukes (like the latest movies have done) "Ain't it nice to know there's a place in this old world where things never change."

[Capt_Redneck]

I couldn't resist this Waylon quote from the conclusion of "By-Line Daisy Duke" in season 3. It sums up how many people feel about not altering the original Dukes (like the latest movies have done) "Ain't it nice to know there's a place in this old world where things never change."


Yeah.....It's like watching paint dry.....


I'm gone
Darrell

[RogerDuke]

I see your point, however I've never had a "watching paint dry" moment when viewing a single minute of any of the original series episodes. If you have, I'd sure like to know when. I'm gone.

[Capt_Redneck]

Like I have always said time and time again - "Nothing will ever beat the original series".....Sure it was done a 100+ different ways BUT how many times can Boss Hogg try and frame the Dukes. Yeah I have all seven season boxsets and the 05 movie (PG13 and Unrated), don't have or want the "The Beginning". I find myself watching the PG13 version and a some of the episodes more than most of the series.

I'm gone
Darrell

[RogerDuke]

I appreciate your response...especially the part where you said you won't own "The Beginning". I saw the 2005 movie when it was in theaters because curiosity got the best of me. I didn't go out and buy the DVD or anything and told all my family members not to ever buy it as a gift for me. I have to admit though, I can see why it did appeal to some people. In fact, there were parts of it that I really liked a lot. If that's all the worse changing the Dukes would have gotten I could have accepted it a little, but when "The Beginning" came out...well that definitely sealed my attitude about why they shouldn't try to change perfection. Possum on a gumbush. I'm gone.

[Lostinthedukes]

I haven't seen it yet. Don't know if I want to. The Dukes of hazzard movie was all right, although a little disappointing, especially the charactor of Bo in the movie. Guess Hollywood is trying to spiff up the Dukes for this generation to like, cause this generation is more into the sex and violence in movies..
Maybe I'm just getting old

[Julieduke]

I had heard somewhere that they are going to make four or five more movies like the second and direct to dvd.

[TimDuke]

Where did you hear that Julie? That's news to me.Oh please no say it aint so. As far as I know there was alledgedly supposed to be a miniseries as a follow up to The Beginning. That rumor has died apparently. I have heard nothing from any of my sources about any new Dukes projects..

[BoJamesDuke]

Well I can see why they'd make them direct to DVD because after the first one I doubt that anyone would want to go to theatres and see it again. It can appricate everyone's view here, that the Dukes is both something that can never be changed and I understand that the movies were not supposed to be like the orignal series. Everyone has their own views on how the Dukes came to live on the Duke Farm, its a hole that the writers never explained in the show, I mean look at all the fan fic writers out there like myself that can make up their own version of how all these events came to be. The Beginning was only was only one explanation of that. I have to admit though, being a fan of the original show - born in '89 - I did like some parts of the first movie. I thought that the whole strip mining of Hazzard thing was very clever...its just the sexual inuendos and the pure filth in the movie that got to me. I'm sorry, but they ruined Uncle Jesse's character...anyone that has seen the movie cannot now go to their kids 'What would Uncle Jesse say if...' because they'd come out with some dirty limiric instead of sage advice.

I am all for change, but there are some things that are better left as they are. Dukes is one of them. It is a timeless classic and if you are going to do a re-make, of course put spins on things, but do they have to ruin perfectly good characters, characters generations have grown up to love and respect in order to make it 'acceptable' for the younger generation, my generation, to enjoy by making it into a filthy movie?

Let's face it, if there were more family movies around instead of all these kind of ones, what would society be more like today? Doesn't that question ever come up into anyone's minds? In the age where true hereos like Superman, The Dukes and Knight Rider were all on television, how was that society? They got by watching these programmes...why is it that this generation has become so warped that its not cool to watch good, family programmes like that anymore.

All credit to Smallville, they have kept the Superman classic alive for this generation and while there are often Sexual connotations, they are only reflecting exactly what today's society is like seeing as that is the time period in which it was set. But then again, it is very overshadowed by the family feel of the Kents, the brotherly love between Pete and Clark and the tight friendships of Lana, Chloe, Lois and Clark later on. None of the characters have been warped as bad as the two Dukes movies did. Maybe we should get those writers to write a Dukes movie and see how it turns out. Hands up who'd like to see Tom Welling have a go at being Luke Duke.... :-p

[DaisyMaeDuke]

Personally, I thought both were awful. In fact, I ended up turning off the beginning halfway through.

[LoriDavenport]

ill admit that like BoJamesDuke had said, the strip mining in hazzard part was clever to think up of. but, as much as i like some of willi nelson's music, i know that they ruined Uncle Jesse's character. and when Bo and Luke cussed in it, Uncle Jesse never allowed them to cuss in the series, and i reckon they had enough sexual stuff in there that i turned off one time and got mad, i whatched 5 mintues of the beggining and i turned it off too. and besides in my opion Catherine Bach was a wayy better daisy duke than Jessica Simpson.

[Lostinthedukes]

I ended up giving my copy of the DVD
to my niece who is 25 and loved the movie.
At least it's gone to some use.:rofl:

[Julieduke]

I ended up giving my copy of the DVD
to my niece who is 25 and loved the movie.
At least it's gone to some use.:rofl:
I read online that there is going to be a New Knight Rider series on Cable and David Hasselhoff won't be the star. I was wandering what people think of that right there.

[dukefan]

I like the movie the beginning, other then the nude women and Willie nelson, I thaugh the youung dukes did great, they should have been in the movie Dukes of Hazzard, April Scott was and should have been the new Daisy Duke by a mile, not Jessica.

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[dukefan]

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why is it so hard to get pics and threads together???

[Brian Coltrane]

DukeFan, if you were a little confused on how to post photos in the forums posts... maybe it's cause you were a little distracted by the photo itself? Heh!

Looks like you figured it out!

[dukefan]

Hey brian, after I caught my breath again i figured it out.....lol!

[mike77]

I couldn't even finish watching it, I don't even know if I made it half way through, well I know I didn't. I borrowed the DVD from someone during my last deployment in Iraq and as hard up for entertainment as I was I could not watch it.

[RogerDuke]

Your post made me smile Mike. I know exactly how you feel!

[The_Dukes_Generl_Lee01]

cool thread I like it a lot and it was pretty nice poll something different for a change I guess! YEEHAW!

[krypt]

I liked it overall [the ABC Family version] but I was missing the awesome driving and stunts from the 05 version.

"That'll put lead in your pencil!"