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Bo_Duke_girl
03-18-2006, 06:39 AM
Here is the link I found on msn.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=218834&GT1=7701

He's setting a bad example for me, I look up to him and Luke Duke.

Tom ya let me down this time :( :evil:

georgiagal1
03-18-2006, 01:29 PM
Theres really no need for 15 god dern topics about it. MYOB, Tom's the man regaurdless.

Bo_Duke_girl
03-18-2006, 05:24 PM
I know but he really let me down. He's my hero. I look up to him.

Capt_Redneck
03-18-2006, 09:13 PM
That is the problem it is OUR business as Dukes fans.

Tom is human like all of us. He made a mistake and because of his celebrity , it is is the spotlight, especially here and on other Dukes sites. That is what these forums are all about, to talk about things good or bad.

I'm gone
Darrell

03-18-2006, 09:23 PM
I'm curious as to how he got Drunk in the first place maybe he was at a party for Saint Patrick 's Day ? Plus he is from the beer state so maybe this is something people from Wisconsin do for fun ? anyway i bet he is feeling pretty low now and hopefully has learned his lesson.

georgiagal1
03-18-2006, 10:23 PM
I do respect your opinion but I still don't agree that its anyones business but Tom's.

Val Strate
03-19-2006, 12:06 AM
You know... I can see both sides of the issue here. Which this subject opens a huge ethical can o'worms here...

Just how much should the press really know when it comes to celebrities? Another question that could be asked is because celebrities are in the public eye all the time should they be held to a higher standard?

I do kind of agree that it's Tom's business and nobody else's. However, he's in the public eye all the time. He probably can't go to the bathroom without being spied on by somebody, (I'm exaggerating here but you get the point). If he knows that he's being watched all the time you think he'd be a little more careful? However Capt is right. Tom's human. No matter how much we'd like to think he's not, he is.

I don't care for the idea of drinking and driving. It is wrong, but if he wasn't Tom Wopat the actor who played Luke Duke, everyone would dismiss this issue. Kind of sad how we over look things in society unless a celebrity is doing it. Isn't it? Which raises the two issues I brought up earlier.... Gives one much to ponder about.

Brian Coltrane
03-19-2006, 12:34 AM
Kitty, for the love of God, Wisconsin is the "Dairy State", not the "Beer State."

Granted, WI has it's share of party shindigs and it's not unusual for taverns to outnumber everything else in a small town. Despite that, I don't think the state has the market cornered on drinking.

That being said, Tom's had a long and successful career - without any such incident like this, until recently. Unless we find out otherwise, I'm chalking it up to a single event and a bad decision on his part.

Ask anybody why they were driving drunk, and they'll tell you stuff like this:

"I felt ok."

"I wasn't going that far."

"I called for a ride but I couldn't get ahold of anybody."

"I was being careful and going slow."


The worst thing about having your judgment impaired by alcohol, is that you don't think your judgment is impaired.

I said it in another post and I'll repeat it here. I'm just glad there was a cop around who noticed Tom's driving and stopped him. This coulda been worse news, had Tom hurt himself or hurt somebody else in the process.

Tom made a mistake, and a serious one, but thank God it wasn't worse.

Brian

MaryAnne
03-19-2006, 01:37 AM
Granted, WI has it's share of party shindigs and it's not unusual for taverns to outnumber everything else in a small town. Despite that, I don't think the state has the market cornered on drinking.

Yes, Wisconsin is not the only state where people drink beer.

Except maybe whatever state Kitty is in. :P

Bo_Duke_girl
03-19-2006, 06:19 PM
My BIG point is......


He is 54 years old. An adult who knows better than to drive while intoxicated. I almost 15 years old and I know better and I probably would know better if I was drunk.

Everybody is human, yes that much is true but he has children. 5 of them to be exact. He is setting a bad example not only for them but for me too.

He is a responsible adult who is half a century old, who I sincerely hope, knows the dangers of driving while intoxicated.

I will never drink because of something in my liver, and I'm not quite sure how it would react to alcohol.

georgiagal1
03-19-2006, 07:03 PM
Im tired of hearing about this. Being a celebrity does not make you immune to mistakes and yes what he did was wrong and he will pay for it gah lee.

Capt_Redneck
03-19-2006, 09:46 PM
]Im tired of hearing about this. Being a celebrity does not make you immune to mistakes and yes what he did was wrong and he will pay for it gah lee.

Nobody said being a celebrity makes you immune to mistakes. Being a celebrity also doesn't make you immune to being human and making mistakes either.

But in some way being a celebrity sort of puts you in the spotlight most of the time. So in a way he has to live up to bigger expectations and also be more scrutinized for certain things as is the case here. If it wasn't Tom Wopat would the news have been all over this? Probably not since it was caught before any other serious action occurred.

I'm gone
Darrell

georgiagal1
03-19-2006, 10:42 PM
I understand what your saying, but what Im saying is Im sick of hearing about it.

Bo_Duke_girl
03-20-2006, 01:21 AM
When you go into the performing arts buisness, you are always on the spot.

In life we have consequences may they be good or bad. Tom made a bad decision and now he has a consequence and that is: Fans will be talking about this for the next month or two.

georgiagal1
03-20-2006, 02:25 AM
Month or two?! If somebody is still worried about this in 2 months they need to get a life of their own, not worry about Tom's. :roll:

Bo_Duke_girl
03-20-2006, 05:07 AM
I do have a life but I also have some problems up here

*points to her own head*

That make me worry about these things. I like only a few things at a time and then I move on. I'm still getting over poke'mon and that was almost 9 years ago.

Bo_Duke_girl
03-20-2006, 05:15 AM
Oh Brian,

Wisconsin and I think a good majority of the midwest has ALOT of pubs, bars, taverns, lounges ect

I think it's because we have more accesess to barley.

My dad, my sister and myself were driving through Wisconsin, I asked him why there were so many bars and he said something like that Wisconsin has ALOT of bars and accsess to alcohol

georgiagal1
03-20-2006, 03:02 PM
I do have a life but I also have some problems up here

*points to her own head*

That make me worry about these things. I like only a few things at a time and then I move on. I'm still getting over poke'mon and that was almost 9 years ago.


Ok...are you saying you like this? What? lol Im sorry Im confused?

Brian Coltrane
03-20-2006, 11:18 PM
Oh, have a beer and relax.

Just don't drive afterwards for God's sake



Brian

MaryAnne
03-21-2006, 12:16 AM
Right-O. Infact, y'all have a beer and relax and I'll drive. :wink:

Bo_Duke_girl
03-21-2006, 04:13 AM
Uh Yeah, some of us are minors ya know, and I'll say it once and I'll say it again.

I CAN'T HAVE ALCOHOL CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD REACT TO MY LIVER DISEASE.

hazzard chic
03-22-2006, 09:47 PM
I see that a lot of people are disapointed that Tom was drinking and driving. I undertand this, it is disapointing. However, I believe that most of us are not as upset about Tom's DUI charge as we are about what the charge does for Tom's image, or more accurately what it does for the image we have of Tom.

What I mean is, no one should drink and drive, but we would find it less upsetting if anyone other than one of the "Duke boys" had been caught doing it. For example, if Steven Segal or some other celebrity had been charged with DUI, sure there would be talk about it but there probably wouldn't be a big deal made of it.

A lot of people, myself included, respect the Dukes and look up to them. What's not to respect? They have good moral character, integrity, respect for themselves and others; and they always do the right thing. Of course we look up to them and respect them.

We all love Tom as Luke Duke. We all respect Tom as Luke Duke. In many ways, rather we realize it or not, rather we mean to or not, we often see and think of Tom as we would Luke. However, we need to remember that Tom is Tom and Luke is a character that he played. No one is perfect, not even Tom and we can't expect him to be perfect just because he's Luke. He made a mistake, and that's all. It should not be blown out of porportion just because it was Tom.

duke gril
03-22-2006, 10:36 PM
we must look at tom as tom. not luke. luke is a ficnal chartor. tom is a real breathin human. he made a mistake yes. but alot o folk are abashin the heck out ol him.donot bash him pray fre em he needs the soport of his family freiend and fans right now. we donot know what may be goin on in his persnal life.he may or may not have a drinkin problem ifin he dose he needs help not bashin

hazzard chic
03-29-2006, 01:50 PM
we must look at tom as tom. not luke. luke is a ficnal chartor. tom is a real breathin human. he made a mistake yes. but alot o folk are abashin the heck out ol him.donot bash him pray fre em he needs the soport of his family freiend and fans right now. we donot know what may be goin on in his persnal life.he may or may not have a drinkin problem ifin he dose he needs help not bashin

Exactly. That's what I am saying.

BCDR05
04-07-2006, 01:06 AM
I'm just glad he didn't drive into a lake being so drunk.......we all know what the outcome would've been then.............

BCDR05
04-07-2006, 01:15 AM
The media do go too far with celebrities and their personal business, but these forums are designed for people to have their say on matters. Some sights are not letting people have their say and in my opinion, that's denying freedom of speech. As long as it's not defaming or rumoured material, we should be allowed to discuss it. It is something that happened....

hazzard chic
04-07-2006, 02:57 AM
The media do go too far with celebrities and their personal business, but these forums are designed for people to have their say on matters. Some sights are not letting people have their say and in my opinion, that's denying freedom of speech. As long as it's not defaming or rumoured material, we should be allowed to discuss it. It is something that happened....

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm not saying that no one has the right to comment on it. It just seems like, judging from what they say about it, like some people are upset because it was one the "Duke boys" that was drinking and driving. We all need to remember that Tom is Tom, a real person; and Luke is a fictional character. Real people make mistakes and can't always be expected to live up to fictional characters that they might play on tv.

BCDR05
04-07-2006, 06:15 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm not saying that no one has the right to comment on it. It just seems like, judging from what they say about it, like some people are upset because it was one the "Duke boys" that was drinking and driving. We all need to remember that Tom is Tom, a real person; and Luke is a fictional character. Real people make mistakes and can't always be expected to live up to fictional characters that they might play on tv.[/quote]

You have to look at it like this, I guess: If it was Tom Welling (Smallville) who'd done it, then his fans would say "but Clark Kent wouldn't do that".

It's just one of those things :evil:

hazzard chic
04-08-2006, 10:09 AM
You have to look at it like this, I guess: If it was Tom Welling (Smallville) who'd done it, then his fans would say "but Clark Kent wouldn't do that".

It's just one of those things :evil:[/quote]

Ah ha, but Clark would do it, if he was wearing red kriptonite. lol

Don't pay any attention to me. It's late, I have a case of insomnia tonight, I'm tired and in a silly mood.

Clayfreak24
04-08-2006, 04:33 PM
I am hoping myself that this is an isolated incident. Which I am pretty sure it is. What I am worried about is that something might be bothering him that caused him to drink in the first place.

Qualapec the She-Wolf
05-29-2006, 09:59 AM
People are killed every day in drunk driving accidents. I'm glad that cop arrested him.

And on the celebrety thing, they should be more careful than everybody else. There are certain sacrifices that come with being so famous. Chief amoung them being privacy and not having the whole world know about your mistakes.

~She-Wolf

Clayfreak24
05-29-2006, 02:07 PM
Nonetheless, they are people just like us. They shouldn't have the pressure of being perfect all the time. They aren't infallible. I will love Tom just as much as I did before this happened. I admit that drunken driving is a serious offense, and I know that he could have killed someone. But being that he was arrested, he is paying for it now. I have forgiven him.

Qualapec the She-Wolf
05-29-2006, 07:34 PM
Nonetheless, they are people just like us. They shouldn't have the pressure of being perfect all the time. They aren't infallible. I will love Tom just as much as I did before this happened. I admit that drunken driving is a serious offense, and I know that he could have killed someone. But being that he was arrested, he is paying for it now. I have forgiven him.

I know that he could have killed someone

Or himself.

I never said they weren't human. The only problem is that it's made public almost immediately. They do make mistakes. And that is why tabloids were invented. Speaking of which, I'm suprised I didn't see it in any tabloids. Then again, I don't read them all so that could explain it. I just kinda figured it'd be on the front cover of everything or something. If I were a reporter it would take precedence over Paris Hilton's new line of handbags.

~She-Wolf

Mrs. Luke Duke
05-30-2006, 07:04 PM
At least Tom and no one else was hurt or injured. There have been too many drunk-driving accidents killing innocent people where I live.

The SADD (students against drinking and driving) clubs in the high-schools in my area have been staging mock accidents to show students that it could happen to you; whether you were driving under the influence; whether your driver was under the influence; or whether the driver of the other vehicle was under the influence. Some of these kids felt that these mock accidents were playing with their emotions while others still think it can't happen to them. I think the SADD clubs are doing the right think, hats off to them.

boiscute2007
06-21-2006, 07:36 PM
Oh c'mon ya'll, he's normal. My dad lost his truck when he was driving drunk, and the cop saw him park and fall out at least Tom didn't do that.

DixieDavenport
07-04-2006, 05:06 PM
Ok I am just reading all this for the first time, my internet was down in March. For starters, I don't agree with drinking and driving. I work as a correctional officer, volunteer as an EMT and Fire Fighter so I've see what can happen from several sides of the coin. Now everyone can lie to each other here but don't lie to yourself have you ever had a beer and drove home a couople hours later? Well, I don't make a habit of it but I'm 40 and sometime between 16 and now I have done it -- not proud of it but did and I was closer to our wise 15 YO's age than Tom's 54.

So Ok it wasn't right, we all know that, but if he were a star and particually Luke Duke it wouldn't have been a big deal. After all how many athletic stars have been arrested for possession of drugs and worse which blew over really quick! I hate it for professional image as well as the message it puts out to people who want to judge others, but hey, lets put this into it's proper prospective:

After all this is Hazzazrd County. Any Law officer who seen who it was saw himself as Rosco for just a moment and he had a Duke boy dead to rights! Rosco would have loved to have pulled them over and arrested them after one beer too much! Now the article I saw didn't say what his BAC level was so it was possible he was just over the limit and the officer was looking for a name. The officer could have towed the car, and called for someone to pick him up --- that would have been the tactful way to have handled it.

I too am just glad we still have Tom and that no one was hurt!

Any word on the outcome of the charges??

DixieDaveport

Bo_Duke_girl
07-27-2006, 05:26 AM
No, I don't think anyone would release it to the public