Coy and Vance

[essyjane]

Which one to you like better? Coy or Vance

[BoDuke'sGirl]

I think I like Bo & Luke better.

[essyjane]

LOL

That wasn't the question

I was trying to see which one you thought did better.






I like Bo and Luke better too (On a brighter note)

Not an easy task huh?

[BoDuke'sGirl]

Then I like Vance out of them. Sorry, I didn't mean to get off the subject! :oops:

[essyjane]

:D :) It is okay. :D :)

Nah, I just wanted to see which character people liked more.




I like coy personally, less mechanical than Vance

[lostsheep22]

Well if we have to pick it would be Coy

[Julieduke]

Well, I wouldn't have to watch more than one video of them that I have from Columbia House to tell you that one.

[essyjane]

Chris seemed not to know what to do for this character.

It was like Vance was there but just out of his reach.

Byron was a more dynamic but still didn't have the knack.

Between them...Coy for sure.

[Iloveschnieder]

Well I am entering this conversation a tad (six months) late, but better late than never, especially since CMT has been airing season 5 episodes this past week.
I have to take Coy over Vance too. I really liked how Coy was in the Insurance Fraud episode, when he thought that he killed a man in a car accident. I really would have loved to see how it would have been played out if it were Tom and John as the actors instead of Bryon and Chris. Bryon played Coy much better than Chris played Vance. I wonder if it would have been easier for Chris if he didn't have to try and clone Tom.
Bryon brought a sparkle into Coy, Chris didn't give anything to Vance.

[georgiagal1]

Its probably would've been better if Chris didn't have to copy Tom, I've seen other movies with him in it and he didn't suck that bad....Its not like he could get any worse though (sorry to you Vance fans)

[Iloveschnieder]

I agree that it would have been better if Chris didn't have to try and copy Tom's character. It would have been so much better if they were aloud to be their own characters instead of being the "clones". I wonder if those in charge back then have the same retrospective feelings. I wonder it they now think, "damn, we should of allowed Chris and Bryon to be their own characters."
Hmmmm y'all wonder what would have happened if Bryon and Chris were good replacements? What would have happened if they were as good or (ack) better (I know how dare I say it) than Tom and John?

[georgiagal1]

It probably still wouldn't have worked, by then everyone loved Bo and Luke...and whoever replaced them IMO wouldn't be as well liked...

[Iloveschnieder]

Yeah your proberly right. In fact I know your right. Just something more to think about

[Garrett Duke]

It would have worked better if they both were given an unique character to work with rather than ones that was taken off of Bo and Luke and given different names. There is more to a person than just a name...

I have to agree about the "Fraud" episode with Coy and Vance...that is my favorite Coy and Vance and would have loved to see that with Bo and Luke. But then again, they deserve to have good episodes to do as well. It wasn't Chris or Byron's fault that Tom and John walked off nor was it their fault that they were given characters that was taken off of Tom and John's.

But of the quesion...I'd have to go with Coy. Vance seemed to me like he had to look off set to read wh at he was to say before saying it. I'd agree, Byron seemed more in tuned with Coy than Chris was with Vance...but then again, they probably didn't have much notice to really get to know their character.

Keepin' it between the ditches

Garrett Duke

[Julieduke]

I think I liked Vance better than Coy, he was just cuter to me.

[LiverpoolGirl23]

Bo and Luke

[smurfette]

If I had to choose, I would say Vance he was just cuter to me too :)

[Julieduke]

After watch all eighteen episodes that Coy and Vance was in I think I would says Vance as well.

[redneck woman]

In my opinion Vance is cuter, but Coy was the better actor. Vance just seemed very wooden. Of course I'm sure a lot of that is because he had to try to act like Luke.

[Jamanda]

when it comes to acting coy does a better job. But I have to agree Vance has the looks.

[Julieduke]

Oh if only he was my age group right now?

[boiscute2007]

Between those two ( I like Bo & Luke more) I would pick Coy, he's cuter.. not as cute as Bo though. :D

[Maggie-Lynn]

The Luke-one.

I thought the blonde guy (I don't know their names, I'm not ashamed of it) was ugly. The Luke-one was a much better actor.

[BoJamesDuke]

Sorry but I boycott the Coy and Vance epsiodes so I wouldn't really know lol.

[traintownofcowee]

Coy would have to be my choice

[Lostinthedukes]

Coy was the better actor, but Vance was the better looking one. Course no one could be Luke and Bo. They should have been allowed to be their own character, maybe there might not have been so much resentment from the fans. If they were just there to look after the farm while our guys were away, it might have went better. I wonder how many people actually did a happy dance when they saw Coy and Vance drive away, off the show for good.:)

[Dixie_Nachelle01]

Sorry but I boycott the Coy and Vance epsiodes so I wouldn't really know lol.

Me too! i haven't watched more than 5 minutes of a Coy and Vance episode!lol

[RogerDuke]

That's a tough one. I had never really thought about. I guess I liked Coy a little better but it's close.

[morgan]

I've just started to see season 5; well, not so bad.
Don't like Vance, he's not "natural", Coy is quite good; he seems better in fighting scene than Vance (for one time the blond is better than the dark), but Daisy seems better of them both!
But, well the hell of names are Coy and Vance?

[xxgeneral_lee01xx]

coy

[LoriDavenport]

well heres the thing no, they aint Bo and Luke, but hey there still Dukes! i honeslty have nothing against them. yes they try to be like Bo and Luke and no they can't be as good as them. but honestly they aint bad actors, ill probably pay fer saying this but i see nothing wrong with these episodes, i mean yea i love luke and bo and no one can replace them, but i actually do like Coy and Vance. I thought that the first couple of episodes that they wouldn't be any good, but once i give em' a try they aint bad. Heck ya gotta give em some credit fer tryin to be like Bo and Luke,at least they tried and didn't make complete idiots of them selfs, sometimes lol. i do disagree with the fact that in one episode they had taken a detour from the bridge instead of jumping it like Bo and Luke wouldve but like i said, hey there dukes! they're still as kind hearted and hardheaded as Bo and Luke, but all in all im glad that Bo and Luke came back lol. point is Coy and Vance episodes are pretty cool once you get use to em. out of the two id choose Vance, hes the better looking one lol. and before ya'll get on here and start sayin i aint a true dukes fan or sumthin like that, yes i am. no i have not been watching ti as long as some of you have but i do love the dukes and no one can replace Bo and Luke. but alls im sayin is Coy and Vance is only human it aint their faults they cant be as good as john or tom. like i said please no one get mad at me for making my point known im a little biased when it comes to things like this lol.


by the way, I LOVE BO AND LUKE MORE!!!!! lol

[RogerDuke]

Well put, luke fan07. I like your positive attitude. If you check out some of BoJamesDuke's old posts, you will see that same good attitude about everything from the original series. Shoot, Bo even had me loving "Strange Visitor to Hazzard" after that good attitude rubbed off on me. You're a great addition to the Hazzardnet...keep up the good work. Possum on a gumbush. I'm gone.

[BoJamesDuke]

*blushes*

Well thanks very much :) Sorry I cant say anything good about Coy and Vance, they may be just as sweet and everything but being an actor they are just too wooden for me and their on screen chemistary just aint the same. They ain't warm enough for me (yes I have watched one episode) to really get into.

Anyway Roger, I see good things in everything about Dukes mainly because they're like a family today and I think the reason I am so open minded is because of the Dukes. I can see no reason to slate the entertainment they gave us to be honest so I just speak my mind...something I learned from Daisy lol.

[LoriDavenport]

now i will say that they shouldve have been told to be their own unigue character and not try to copy and do everything exactly like Bo and Luke. they shouldve had their own unique character, i personally think that maybe the Coy and Vance episodes wouldve been better, because every duke has a certain quality about them. like Bo, the go getter, and Luke the thinker, uncle jesse the wise one and daisy, i guess you could say she has a mix of all, maybe. Coy and Vnace shouldve had their own uniquness about them and not try to be like bo or luke, but i do understand that they were told to do everything exaclty like them so the keyword here being uniquness, if i spelt that right lol.


i know im like a broken record, i repeat lol.

[LucasKevinDuke]

woah, I know im really late on this one but im going to have to say both lol.I dont hate them, idwatch a coy and vance episode. I think pe who boycott the Coy and Vance episodes just hate to see change. because if Coy and Vance were the original Duke cousins everyone would love them but hathe bo and luke episodes.

catch my drift?

[LoriDavenport]

catch ya drift clearly....never really took the time to think of it that way myself.

[RogerDuke]

I tell you what LucasKevinDuke, I'm impressed.
My brain's going a mile a minute now imagining that scenerio.
I'm so impressed with your open-minded creative thinking I don't even know how to respond. It's not too often someone leaves me speechless.
I hope you're not just one of these people who puts up a few posts and then goes away forever. You're clever thoughts could really spice this place up. (not that we need it. LOL)

[RogerDuke]

After giving it some thought, here's my opinion about LucasKevinDuke's clever idea of Bo and Luke reversing roles with Coy and Vance.
The Dukes was such a successful show and it was so well created, written and executed, it could have handled a couple weak links in the chain and still have been a hit. I do think that the lower quality acting abilities of Byron and Christopher would have drug the ratings down to a degree but I still think it would have succeeded. The key to the long term success would have been how well Byron and Christopher matured as actors. I'm not sure how much acting experience they had before coming on Dukes but John and Tom started episode number one making me believe they'd been in the business as long as the shows veterans. They were that good!!
Bottom line...the ratings would have been lower, less people would have watched and it wouldn't have lasted 7 years unless the acting improved.
As for me, I would have been just as big of a fan as I am today despite it all.
I'm a Dukes fan for life!!!!

[General Grant]

Okay Y'all, here goes...

I do agree with Lori that Coy and Vance are still Dukes. We should give them a fair shot, afterall, Dukes don't fight Dukes. If it weren't for Coy and Vance coming in, Bo and Luke would be unhappy because they would not have been given the chance to fulfill their life long dream of joining the Nascar circuit. I think we owe it to Coy and Vance the same respect we give to Bo and Luke. Sure, it just isn't the same as having Bo and Luke, but even Uncle Jesse (who raised Bo and Luke from toddlers) accepted their leaving and Coy and Vance's temporary takeover of Hazzard.
In a different light... Tom and John (if I am right on this) walked out on the "Dukes project" because of a contract argument and miscommunications, right? Well, if it weren't for Byron and Chris, the Dukes probably would not have lasted those extra three seasons to make seven, all in all. I think we owe Chris and Byron a huge thank you for that. They were put in a bad situation. It should have been handled better by the writers/creators of the Dukes to give those two their own characters and personalities to follow. But, they did the best with what they had and that is all anyone can do. I actually think they did pretty good for the parts they had to play and the situation they were put in.

Very good, LukasKevinDuke. I really like that perspective you put on this whole thing!

Anyways, to answer the original question. I think that Coy had more of a beliveable personality, and that Byron was a better actor.

I think that is it for now. Hope to hear some more opinions about all this!

General Grant

[LucasKevinDuke]

you're right General.
Also put your selves in their shoes, how would you guys feel if you were actors and you were them and got the part of Coy and vance and you hear everyone bad talking you ? won't you feel bad or even hurt?

[LucasKevinDuke]

and Roger, they might have been bad actors but isnt acting 1%talent and 99% har work? 12 hours aday yould give you the experience and classes would haelp them improve alot

[RogerDuke]

I always felt bad for Coy and Vance. They probably suffered from the same thing that a new step-parent has to suffer from. A lot of step-parents have to hear all the time "You're not my real parent". If the story has a happy ending the parent and child eventually become close but it takes time.
Unfortunately, Coy and Vance never had time to shed the "you're not Bo and Luke" stigma so we'll never know how it would have turned out.
By the time Coy and Vance came around, I was so much in love with the show and it was so much a part of my life, they could have replaced Bo and Luke with a porcupine and a snapping turtle and it wouldn't have mattered to me. I was hooked for life.
(They would have had to give the porcupine and snapping turtle a booster seat to drive the General though)

[LoriDavenport]

I agree with ya there Roger, that's true. Poor Coy and Vance didn't even stand a chance where everyone got use to seeing Bo and Luke each day. And when two new faces came on, they tuned them out and it wasn't fair to Bryon and Chris. But, really though Roger, I never compared it to a "new-step parent" before, but now see the similarity between the two.

[General Grant]

Very Good Comparison, Roger!

I have never thought of it that way, about the step-parent comparison! Brilliant comparison!

Anyway, as bad as I did feel for Coy and Vance, and as much as I do think they deserve our respect and all, I'll be the first to admit that I was glad when Bo and Luke did decide to come back. It would have been nice if they could have given Coy and Vance a little nicer "send off" though. It was almost like, Bo and Luke leave, Coy and Vance come and put their lives aside to help the Dukes, Coy and Vance leave abruptly because Hazzard isn't big enough for the four cousins even for one show. (not to sound rude there...) It would have been nice if Coy and Vance at least came back on occasion, just so it didn't seem like we abandoned them.

Anyway, thanks y'all for the opinions.
General Grant

[Julieduke]

Very Good Comparison, Roger!

I have never thought of it that way, about the step-parent comparison! Brilliant comparison!

Anyway, as bad as I did feel for Coy and Vance, and as much as I do think they deserve our respect and all, I'll be the first to admit that I was glad when Bo and Luke did decide to come back. It would have been nice if they could have given Coy and Vance a little nicer "send off" though. It was almost like, Bo and Luke leave, Coy and Vance come and put their lives aside to help the Dukes, Coy and Vance leave abruptly because Hazzard isn't big enough for the four cousins even for one show. (not to sound rude there...) It would have been nice if Coy and Vance at least came back on occasion, just so it didn't seem like we abandoned them.

Anyway, thanks y'all for the opinions.
General Grant
They weren't even mentioned in the Reunion Movies or any of the Big Screen Movies as well. I think people just up and forget about old Coy and Vance, I thought Vance was the cuter one or the two and one them guest starred on Baywatch playing himself.

[Emy-Rae Duke]

I kinda like Coy..I guess I have a thing for blonds lol

[Julieduke]

I kinda like Coy..I guess I have a thing for blonds lol
here is a question what if David Hasselhoff would've got the Role of Vance instead of the guy that did.

[Emy-Rae Duke]

nope still Coy ^_^

[Julieduke]

nope still Coy ^_^
What are you doing today? Want to join me and LizzyJackson-Davenport on Jump In My Car?

[Emy-Rae Duke]

yea but its gonna take a while for me ta catch up

[Julieduke]

yea but its gonna take a while for me ta catch up
Okay, I think you'll have a really fun time but there's a but of warning there is post that will have you laughing thow.

[Laura Duke]

Okay everyone, it took me long enough to find this post. Now, I can hear people groaning, because if you know me, you know that I am totally against everything on the 5th season with Coy and Vance.

While everyone had some valid points about Byron and Chris, and how they were stuck in a bad situation, there could be another side to this. It could be that they knew going in that it would be tough, and I'm sure that they knew that they were there to replace Tom and John, since I think on one of the dvd credits that John recommended Byron for a role in the Dukes. I think that they knew it would be hard, and could they possibly have done it as a quick way to rise to fame? Maybe it back fired on them? I know, I know, I can hear people yelling at me "You're awful!" But, one can't help but think of that.

Now, I have watched all of the shows on season 5 with Coy and Vance, and will no longer watch them anymore. Just turning on a show with them and seeing there faces on the credits instead of Bo and Luke sends me into tears!

Well, that's just my two cents.....
Laura Duke:D

[General Grant]

Alrighty...

You're right, Laura, I am groaning... I know you well enough to know that anything you have to say about Coy and Vance is likely to send you into tears!!
:cry: (that's how you look when you see the opening credits with Coy and Vance, right?!)

Anyways, on to the discussion at hand- I am sure that they knew they were going to "replace" someone. Coy and Vance aren't really replacements, though, are they? If the creators wanted to replace Bo and Luke couldn't they have just as Easily found better look-alikes and given the new actors the characters of Bo and Luke? They didn't do that, I think they got one blonde and one dark haired guy with similar "Bo and Luke personalities" just to give the viewers a sense of familiarity so these new "strangers" didn't seem so strange and unknown to us. Who knows, maybe I'm way off base there. But I'm not sure that was the intent to make the new characters Just like Bo and Luke, I think it was more so the viewers could sense some familiar personalities and feel more "at home" with the whole change, as drastic as it was...
Quick Rise to fame?!?! If that is what they thought, then I am not sure that they have the brilliant minds of a Duke :D IF (and I did say if) that was the case, I guess we all blew that one down the drain. Instead of fame they got something more like this... :mad: whenever their names appeared in the credits!

OH, and just so I don't disappoint you, Laura, "YOU'RE AWEFUL!!!" :)
No, just kidding there, bad joke! Thanks for your opinions, and keep them rollin' it is always a pleasure to read all of the thoughts and opinions of so many different people, esspecially when they handle themselves so gracefully like y'all have done!

General Grant

[kit]

I get sick and tired of hearing people put Bryon and Chris down.
All they did was try to feel a gap the Tom and John created.
It is not there fault that the writers made them into clones of
Tom and John. They just did what the producers and writers told
them to do. If it wasn't for Bryon and Chris stepping in for Tom and John
the Duke could have been ended before begin of the 5th season.
All those who put them down have you ever met them? My guess is no.
Because If you had then you would know that they are the sweetest,
most down to earth guys you will ever met.

Did anyone think that the reason they weren't on the reunion movie was cuz no asked them.
I'm sorry to say but I have never seen people act so stupid about something as this. They
should Thank them for stepping in when Tom and John got so greedy. That all Tom and John thought about was the money!!!

[Laura Duke]

Hey Everyone,

Thanks for responding-I was beginning to think I ruffled some feathers by my post-most definately not the case!

Well, I feel that Coy and Vance were set in as replacements for Bo and Luke. I also thought that on one of the DVD credits, Guy Waldron (the creator), also mentioned that they were there to try and "replace" Bo and Luke. In my mind, Coy and Vance did too many things like Bo and Luke. The only people who should drive the General Lee is Bo, Luke, Daisy, Uncle Jesse, and Me!;) Well, I'm kidding about me, but I sure wish I could!:lol:

I think anytime someone is brought in as replacements, they are destined to fail, sorry to say. To me, it's like they are replacing my family!

Also, I do hear a lot of people say that they think the show would have ended if Coy and Vance weren't on. I disagree with that. A lot of people loved Daisy, Uncle Jesse, and the whole cast enough that I think they would have waited it out. Besides, even with Coy and Vance, ratings were already beginning to dramatically fall.

As for Byron and Chris, I can say you are 100% correct that I have never met them. In all honesty, my first instinct would be not wanting to meet them-just for the simple fact that they played Coy and Vance. But, I'm sure that once I did meet them, they probably are the nicest guys. I wish them well in all they do, and I hope that they have been acting since the Dukes. I just totally dislike them for the Dukes.

All of you may think I'm stupid, and, sadly, that's something I'll have to live with. But, that's the way I feel. Just being open and honest with my feelings on the subject. Like I said, I have NOTHING against Byron and Chris personally, but I totally dislike Coy and Vance. I do with Byron and Chris all the luck in the world.

Thanks for listening!
Laura Duke:D

[General Grant]

Okay, I'm going to chime in here again!

First off, kit, I don't know if people are putting down Byron and Chris so much as they are just giving their thoughts about Coy and Vance. I, personally, cannot blame people for not liking Coy and Vance, I understand what they are saying. I personally think they were okay on the show.
And Laura, you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, as is kit, and I respect you for stating it in such a respectful way.

The characters Coy and Vance stepped in so Bo and Luke could fulfill their dreams. But the people, Byron and Chris, I don't think are the ones on the discussion. Does that make any sense? (sometimes I know what I'm trying to say but it doesn't come out to make sense!)
I, also, have not met Byron and Chris, so I don't know what kind of people they are, but I am not in this discussion to judge them. If it ever sounded like that, I apologize. I'm here because I'm discussing Coy and Vance. They (coy and vance) are fictional characters (as much as I hate to say that!) and Byron and Chris are real people. I think maybe sometimes we could possibly take Coy and Vance as reality? I think that we as fans and they (the writers/creators) should have portrayed more "duke like actions" with the whole circumstance. We should have taken Uncle Jesse's path and accepted them ( this is solely my opinion) but even Uncle Jesse or Daisy (I don't remember which) said that Coy and Vance wouldn't be the same as Bo and Luke. (I think) I don't think that anyone is acting stupid about this, or that anyone is being judging to putting them down. This discussion started out about which character (coy or vance) you liked better. Some people simply stated that they didn't like either, they liked Bo and Luke. To all of you who stated that, it is your right to say, and your opinion. I thank you for saying it with the respect you showed. No one should be getting put down for their opinions IF they say them in a respectful tone. Isn't that putting into practice what 7 (glorious) years of the Dukes tried to utilize. I don't recollect the Dukes being rude to someone for not sharing thier opinion, and neither should we. Not that we should do everything that the Dukes do...like blow up outhouses and the like!! I don't think we should put Tom and John down (and if I have done that I aplogize, that wasn't my intent, and looking back I can see that I maybe did that, I apologize for that. How do we know that Tom and John got greedy? Well, at any rate, I hope that everyone learned something from the whole Coy and Vance charade. And I think that Coy and Vance, by the end of the season, were beginning to develop personalitites, as small as they were!

And to answer a comment you made, Laura, no, I don't think you are stupid.

Anyway, y'all keep them opinions and thoughts rollin'!

General Grant

[Julieduke]

Okay, I'm going to chime in here again!

First off, kit, I don't know if people are putting down Byron and Chris so much as they are just giving their thoughts about Coy and Vance. I, personally, cannot blame people for not liking Coy and Vance, I understand what they are saying. I personally think they were okay on the show.
And Laura, you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, as is kit, and I respect you for stating it in such a respectful way.

The characters Coy and Vance stepped in so Bo and Luke could fulfill their dreams. But the people, Byron and Chris, I don't think are the ones on the discussion. Does that make any sense? (sometimes I know what I'm trying to say but it doesn't come out to make sense!)
I, also, have not met Byron and Chris, so I don't know what kind of people they are, but I am not in this discussion to judge them. If it ever sounded like that, I apologize. I'm here because I'm discussing Coy and Vance. They (coy and vance) are fictional characters (as much as I hate to say that!) and Byron and Chris are real people. I think maybe sometimes we could possibly take Coy and Vance as reality? I think that we as fans and they (the writers/creators) should have portrayed more "duke like actions" with the whole circumstance. We should have taken Uncle Jesse's path and accepted them ( this is solely my opinion) but even Uncle Jesse or Daisy (I don't remember which) said that Coy and Vance wouldn't be the same as Bo and Luke. (I think) I don't think that anyone is acting stupid about this, or that anyone is being judging to putting them down. This discussion started out about which character (coy or vance) you liked better. Some people simply stated that they didn't like either, they liked Bo and Luke. To all of you who stated that, it is your right to say, and your opinion. I thank you for saying it with the respect you showed. No one should be getting put down for their opinions IF they say them in a respectful tone. Isn't that putting into practice what 7 (glorious) years of the Dukes tried to utilize. I don't recollect the Dukes being rude to someone for not sharing thier opinion, and neither should we. Not that we should do everything that the Dukes do...like blow up outhouses and the like!! I don't think we should put Tom and John down (and if I have done that I aplogize, that wasn't my intent, and looking back I can see that I maybe did that, I apologize for that. How do we know that Tom and John got greedy? Well, at any rate, I hope that everyone learned something from the whole Coy and Vance charade. And I think that Coy and Vance, by the end of the season, were beginning to develop personalitites, as small as they were!

And to answer a comment you made, Laura, no, I don't think you are stupid.

Anyway, y'all keep them opinions and thoughts rollin'!

General Grant
Personally I think the Vance was the cuter one and Coy was just average myself. But they did somethings in the fifth season that Bo and Luke never did and their stunts seemed to almost push the edge.

[daisydukeXenosstrait]

im not trying 2 disrespect the actors who played Coy and Vance but Coy and Vance just werent the same as Bo and Luke again not 2 disrespect Byron and Chris.

[daisydukeXenosstrait]

like my title says Coy is cute but Bo is cuter again no disrespect 2 Coy:)

[RogerDuke]

Yesterday (Feb 21) was Christopher Mayer's birthday.
Happy birthday cousin Vance!!!!!!

[james best]

Coy and Vance were just doing what any actor who has the opportunity to be on a hit TV show would have done. they took the job they did not take john or tom's job, they were pawns of Warner bros. to cohere john and tom to come back to the show. it so happens that john and tom had a legit beef with warner bros. they were getting cheated in money due them on merchandising. as we all were. coy and Vance were brought on the show not to replace them that is impossible anyway but were brought on to make john and tom give into to warner' bros. demands. it was hard for the new guys as the fans resented their dressing and acting like john and tom they were just reading the scripts that were originally written for tom and john it was not their choice to change the charterers. I hope fans understand coy and Vance were pawns and needed the work. who can blame them i sure don't. Rosco

[JESSI DUKE]

Happy Birthday Chris!!!!

I think that so cool that we get to hear from one of the cast members there thoughts on Byron and Chris. I think it's not fair to Byron and Chris and that there dogged so bad. Byron is the coolest. He doesn't treat fan like a fan. He treat's you like a long lost friend. I think it stinks what WB did.

[RogerDuke]

Wow, what a thrill to get that insight. Thanks so much for posting that.
We occasionally do hear some polite criticism of Coy and Vance but I'm sure we all agree that Christopher and Byron were great guys. It's so awesome to have you here filling us in on these things Mr. Best. Khee, Khee!!! I love it! I love it!

[RogerDuke]

Happy Birthday Coy!!
(Byron Cherry....April 17)
We sure appreciate you helping take care of the farm when our favorite Duke boys were out racing NASCAR.
I'll buy you a buttermilk at the Boar's Nest. Happy birthday!!

[JESSI DUKE]

Happy birthday Coy!!!

[Julieduke]

Happy birthday Coy!!!
Happy Birthday, wow two cast members in the same month that's really something now.

[RogerDuke]

Well Julie, April isn't the only month with two birthdays.
Cletus (Jan 1) and Boss (Jan 4)
Daisy (March 1) and Lulu (March 31)
Enos (Aug 28) and Cooter (Aug 30)
There's a big gap at the end of the year. Nobody has a birthday in October, November and December.

[Julieduke]

Well Julie, April isn't the only month with two birthdays.
Cletus (Jan 1) and Boss (Jan 4)
Daisy (March 1) and Lulu (March 31)
Enos (Aug 28) and Cooter (Aug 30)
There's a big gap at the end of the year. Nobody has a birthday in October, November and December.
I wonder who pulled more pranks then Peggy or John then there a day apart in birthdays.

[Elly May Duke]

okay I know we're talking about birhdays here, but i have a question about Coy and Vance. Can somebody tell me a bit about them. Like why don't Bo Luke and Daisy hang with them more and is it true that the two of them almost got Daisy killed once? Just been bugging me lately so i had to ask.

[LoriDavenport]

Almost got Daisy killed??? Now, I personally haven't sat down to watch a coy and vance episode, due to the time and all, but...I wouldn't think they would ever let her get into a situation like that. That just doesn't seem right to me. Bo, Luke, and Daisy doesn't hang out with them more because they left the farm to take care of a sick relative (If i remember correctly) and that relative might need to be taken care of 24/7... not giving them any time to do anything or hang out with anyone.

[daisydukeXenosstrait]

okay I know we're talking about birhdays here, but i have a question about Coy and Vance. Can somebody tell me a bit about them. Like why don't Bo Luke and Daisy hang with them more and is it true that the two of them almost got Daisy killed once? Just been bugging me lately so i had to ask.

no sorry, they didnt, im sorry i put that in a story of ours cause i thought it would be a good twist

[Elly May Duke]

oh. okay. like i said you are good with those. So what really is the deal between those two. I mean since they are cousins they sure don't have much to do with eachother. you know Daisy Bo and Luke don't have much to do with them . . .unless that's my imagination just want some information on them.

[daisydukeXenosstrait]

oh. okay. like i said you are good with those. So what really is the deal between those two. I mean since they are cousins they sure don't have much to do with eachother. you know Daisy Bo and Luke don't have much to do with them . . .unless that's my imagination just want some information on them.

in the show, Daisy got along with Coy and Vance just like she got along with Bo and Luke,like i said, i put that in there for a twist

[RogerDuke]

You're right Lori. On "Welcome Back Bo and Luke" Coy and Vance left forever to take care of Aunt Bessie and Uncle Elbert. They didn't say where they lived.

[LoriDavenport]

oh. okay. like i said you are good with those. So what really is the deal between those two. I mean since they are cousins they sure don't have much to do with eachother. you know Daisy Bo and Luke don't have much to do with them . . .unless that's my imagination just want some information on them.

And thank you very much Roger for clearing that up for me. And Elly May, it's like I said in my previous post, the reason why they never spend any time with one another or the fact that they dont have much to with their other two cousins is because of coy and vance leaving to take care of their sick family members. So, they have a full time job on their hands with that, hence not leaving them enough time for themselves.

[RogerDuke]

I'm a little bit surprised that the writers didn't specify where Bessie and Elbert lived but I guess it didn't really matter.
After Coy and Vance left I was pretty happy. Not because they were gone, but because Bo and Luke were back. Seeing them pop into the Boar's Nest and pull those helmets off was one of the best scenes the series ever produced.
Looking back though, I appreciate Coy and Vance for filling in even though they were never too popular with the majority of fans. The way I saw it at the time, "The Dukes of Hazzard" with Coy and Vance was better than no Dukes at all. The rest of the cast was so awesome, they held the show up pretty well.

[Garrett Duke]

I once again agree with you Roger. I wish I could sum it all up as you seem to do so easily. ;) I am not a big Coy and Vance fan, but WB had to do something without Tom and John there and as you said, Roger, it was way better having them there than not having no Dukes to watch at all. Well I guess I can imagine since I was only five when the show ended - though I do remember watching the Dukes and liking the show, as odd as that sounds. LOL.

Anyways, Daisy and Jesse and all the other characters carried the weight well to make the show pull through the season without Bo and Luke. I haven't seen that ep in a LONG time, but it was awesome seeing Bo and Luke taking off the helmets and the welcome that they had received on the show.

Also, I think Coy and Vance had some pretty good and original story/plot lines. Different than the ones with Bo and Luke. Bo and Luke had good plot/story lines, but of the episodes I remember with Coy and Vance, they had some really good and different plot/story lines behind the shows that they were in. I am sure that helped as well throughout the time Bo and Luke was gone.

[RogerDuke]

I liked what you said about the writing and plots of the Coy and Vance episodes Garrett. In addition to what I said about the other actors holding the show up during season 5, I should have included the writers.
I wonder if some of those were plots were created before the writers knew that Bo and Luke wouldn't be there. I guess it wouldn't have been too tough to adjust the scripts to different Duke boys. (Bear in mind that I'm just speculating here and have no idea if that's the case)
Another thing that made season 5 enjoyable is Enos coming home from California.....although I did miss his adventures in the big city.....what I wouldn't give for those episodes on DVD!! Grits and greens strike again!!!!

[texasdaisy09]

I loved that they put Emma Tizdale in the show. I thought it was so sweet that she had such a crush on Uncle Jesse.

[RogerDuke]

Happy Birthday cousin Vance!!
(Christopher Mayer....Feb 21)

[Jami Lee Hogg]

Happy Birthday Vance!!!

[RogerDuke]

Belated Happy Birthday Coy.
I hope ya had a great day.
(Byron Cherry April 17)

[HossC]

I'm watching season 5 now, and was going to put my 2 cents in, but it looks like it's all been said. I have to say I'm on the side of Roger (et al) - Coy and Vance did what they had to do. I'm about half way through their run, and after I'd got used to them, and they'd settled in, I found no problem enjoying their episodes (same happens each time I watch season 5). Now don't get me wrong - I'm still looking forward to Bo and Luke's return, but the ones I'm watching are alright. They are part of the show, love 'em or loathe 'em, they always will be.

What I will say is what a well mannered, polite debate this has been. Coy and Vance really polarise opinion like nothing else on DoH, and I didn't see a cross word or insult traded - well done everyone, it's good to see people on the internet who can accept that someone else can hold an opposing viewpoint without resorting to swearing and personal jibes.

Don't know how many of you have seen it, but I found this video of Coy failing to get into the General (apparently during an audition) on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7EefnfSIYg

[RogerDuke]

Do you watch the episodes in order like I do?
I really don't like skipping around for some reason but I will go to a particular episode on occasion (like Christmas) but in general I enjoy watching them in chronological order. I'm in the middle of season 2 now. This is my fourth time around since December 2006 when season 7 came out on DVD. I generally watch all 7 seasons every year but it doesn't look like I'll get done with season 7 by New Year's eve this year!

[HossC]

Do you watch the episodes in order like I do?
I do watch them in order - it wouldn't feel right otherwise. The only exception I make is watching bits of episodes to double-check trivia.

This is only my second time through my DVDs (7 seasons + reunion films), and I only started this time because they were showing the 2005 film on TV a couple of months back. I've seen it once before, but this time I got ten minutes into it before deciding enough was enough and dug out season 1. At the time I had only just finished watching my 11 season box set of MASH for the second time.

[RogerDuke]

I never really got into MASH.
My second favorite all-time show was Stingray but nobody's ever heard of that by now. I also used to like Dallas, Charlie's Angels and A-Team but Dukes is the only one of those that I ever stuck with long term.

[HossC]

I think Uncle Jesse would like the doctors in MASH. They might enjoy the company of the nurses, but then Bo and Luke like the ladies. Aside from that they brew their own alcohol (gin not 'shine), have a strong view of right and wrong and fight injustice and discrimination when they see it. They also have strong family bonds, whether it be Hawkeye with his father, or BJ with his wife and daughter etc. etc..

Initially when I read your post I thought you meant Gerry Anderson's 60s series Stingray (the same guy that did Joe 90 and Thunderbirds etc.). Then I checked IMDb and assume you mean the 80s Stephen J. Cannell show which I don't remember making it to the UK (we had a lot of American shows in the 80s). I watched Dallas avidly for one of the middle seasons, then strangely igonored it afterwards. Saw some of Charlie's Angels. The A-team is another show I think I watched all of, although I only have season 2 on DVD, and I wasn't keen on the last season when they were working for the government. Believe it or not the A-Team movie only opens here this Friday (only 2 months after you!) - did you get a chance to see it?. I'm hoping to watch it this weekend sometime.

[HossC]

@Roger

Back on MASH - as well as Sorrell Booke appearing twice in the first season (see picture in the Sorrell/Boss section), Rick Hurst also appeared twice, once in season 6, and once in season 7. I'll have a look through his section later and post some pics if no-one else has.

[RogerDuke]

I'd love to see those pictures.
I sure wish I had better computer skills. I couldn't even figure out how to put my Uncle Jesse avatar up there. I had to have my brother-in-law do it!

[HossC]

I'd love to see those pictures.

Here you go Roger - just click the link below:

http://www.hazzardnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7867